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Message Thread 37024  




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Message# 37024
Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:06
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
TAZZMAN Nice post all, but let me throw in something else - the future of music. I was born in 1960 and nearing 50 years old. Rock and Roll ruled the day! In the late 70's and early 80's there were a few bands, and a few clubs to hang out in. Now there the market is saturated, completely matured. Most bands are making now, what they did 25 years ago - around 400-500 dollars! Even more disturbing is the trend in music. My 14 year old son is a music "minority" in school - HE LISTENS TO ROCK MUSIC! Look at Billboard top 100, ITUNES and what do you see? LADY GA GA, BLACK EYED PEAS, JZ, BEYONCE ....on and on. In other words, RAP, HIP HOP has become the dominant genre of music that kids are listening to these days. I think we are all DINOUSAURS and are seeing the beginning of the end. If you are a musician, get into sampling. If you're a buisness owner, hire a DJ and open a HIP HOP club! If you're an over 35 year old rock musician, start thinking of another hobby!
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Message# 37030 (Reply to 37024)
Sunday, October 25, 2009 21:55
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
Steve K You and I are about the same age...I've got a few years on you. I see things a little differently. When I first started playing clubs, (well before I was actually legally old enough to get in mind you), I often heard other "seasoned" musicians performing the current music of the day. It was kind of sad really, to hear these musicians who could play big band with the best of them try and cover a Beatles tune, or Chicago, BS&T, etc.

To the crowds they were playing to though, this made many of them feel "with it" and in touch with the current genre of music.

Now we are in an age where the rock & rollers are faced with a new genre...rap/hip hop whatever you call it. I don't get it. There...I've said it. To a musician of my age and experience it just doesn't do a thing for me to listen to a monotone synth drum and unintelligible (except for the vulgarities) lyric droning on monotonously.

That said, every generation has to have a music it can call it's own, one that their parents "don't get". Well, this generation has one. We as the "older generation" have to accept it, and please let's not embarrass ourselves by trying to cover the latest Jay-Z hit. My parents thought the Beatles were just long haired screamers & had no musical talent at all.

The bottom line...as seasoned musicians it is our responsibility to impart our experience & knowledge on the younger generation, then step aside and let them do their thing. We will continue to find gigs at restaurants, Elks Lodges, American Legion halls, and the like, where folks our own age can appreciate the music we've all come to cherish and enjoy, whether that be classic rock, do-wop R&B, country, hard rock, heavy metal, (and the 2000 varieties of "metal" music invented over the last 30 years), or even polkas. To each his own.

I did a gig at Andrews AFB Officers Club a few years ago, just before it was torn down. Back in the 70s I used to play the lounge there performing the latest tunes from Casey Kasem's AT40, & the place was packed with all the younger crowd. In the ballroom on the other side would be the big band "seasoned" musicians, playing the music for the "over 50" retired crowd that loved the music of the late 40s & early 50s. My last time in there I looked around and realized that *I* was now the "seasoned" musician, and, well, the lounge was, to be honest, pretty empty. It was kind of a sad feeling, right up until we hit the stage in the big room with 400 of the best men & women in the country (our veterans & active duty service men and women) dancing on this huge dance floor to the classics from the 50s-80s.

Give the kids their music. We've got our own, & I for one still love performing it, & will do so until I die.
Contact: OracleBand.net
Location: Gaithersburg

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Message# 37031 (Reply to 37024)
Sunday, October 25, 2009 22:23
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
Gaba-Gaba_Hey-Hey Wow, there are a lot of bands that still play in the MD music scene. Just because you haven't been able to find your nitch don't step on everyones elses ideals...

Shame on you TAZMAN...

If you know anything about music history, you should know that everything comes back around, period. The 70s sound came back as well as the classic R&B sound of the late 60s & 70s...music is like life, A CYCLE. Learn it and understand it and you too will be a happy camper.
Location: all over MD

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Message# 37034 (Reply to 37031)
Monday, October 26, 2009 06:50
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
Backstage There are points in everyone's say. But I have to agree with Steve K the most. I too am fifty"ish" started in the Junior and Senior High teen clubs, the college mixers and the clubs. I put it down for over a decade to do the family thing and when I picked it back up I found a greater love for it, so have the other guys I play with. It and they are still out there and if your band is good enough they will come to see you and even some new blood will show up. It's not over until we are all old guys playing Metal in a retirement community in Florida somewhere. God, picture that. LOL By then, who cares, the younger ones will be established and they will be in our positions. Again, the cycle of life and music. Keep playing until death or arthritis stops you.

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Message# 37037 (Reply to 37034)
Monday, October 26, 2009 14:20
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
Charlie Here's my 2 cents...The musicians in the band I play with ( Bone Dri ) are
between the ages of 36 and 59. We play music that everyone enjoys. Old school Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Cream, Skynyrd, Doors, CCR - and the newer tunes from 311, Audioslave, Tonic, Alice in Chains, Sublime, Creed, Stone Temple Pilots, Incubus, Bush, Pearl Jam (just to name a few.)And some songs have that hip-hop beat - the crowd loves it.
We play to a mixed crowd and we always get positive feedback- from everyone. Club owners are always pleased with our performances, seeing the dance floor crowded and drinks flowing. We are always asked back. There are songs for everyone, young and old.
My point is all music changes with each generation. There is a lot of great music out there, classic and new. No matter what songs you choose to play,put your own twist on them and HAVE FUN.
As for the money...it's a lot of work to put on a 4 hour show. You should always go home with at least $100 in your pocket. Good luck to you all.


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Message# 37044 (Reply to 37037)
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 06:40
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
REV. WOUND HEY C.L.! I KNOW WHO THE 59 YEAR OLD IS! I SAY WE ALL KNOW WHATS DOWN THE ROAD,BE TRUE TO YOUR SELF. OLE D/FLY SKIN BASHER,TAKE CARE BRO

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Message# 37055 (Reply to 37024)
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 18:27
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
Rob Music only dies when you let it, then it only dies in you. It lives on in other people.

People think that it's the fans responsibility to show up. They think that's it's not the resposibilty of the musicians to draw the fans. When a band plays to a dozen people they say the music scene around here is dead. They never say "We Suck" it's always the fault of the fan.

So tell me; if the music scene is so bad around here why do national acts continue to draw crowds? I went to several concerts this summer. I went to a blues festival, Judas Priest, B.B. King and The Cult. There are several genere's of music represented there and none of them had a problem drawing a crowd. There was about 10,000 to see Judas Priest, B.B. King sold out, there was about 5,000 at the blues festival and there was about 500 to 800 at the 9:30 Club to see The Cult.

I don't expect a local cover band to draw that many people, but it shows that if your not drawing crowds it's not the music it's you.

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Message# 37066 (Reply to 37030)
Thursday, October 29, 2009 15:02
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
G Jones Great post, Steve! I really enjoyed my year with you and Mike and Veronica and Oracle! Keep the faith! Don't ever stop!

Glenn Jones
Location: Bowie

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Message# 37152 (Reply to 37055)
Thursday, November 05, 2009 21:24
Subject: THE FUTURE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
THE JUICE I AGREE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY;THE IDEAL IS TO KEEP THE AUDIENCE MOTIVATED (49 TRYING TO BE 18 PHYSCIALLY-HA,HA)AND ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO DO THIS;IS LET THEM BE INVOLVED,DOING THAT BRINGS A GREAT SHOW....JUICE
Location: GLEN BURNIE

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